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Round 1 Results
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Looks my chances of an upset are falling quickly
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Now that there's nothing significant to play for, my team finally decided to all play defense the same week. Only confident I can win Rebounds, gonna need some help in Defense/Assists and a miracle in points with only 1 game from Brogdon.

Did not see Mitchell and Gill both taking such a dive the last month. Gill's minutes/stats are tapering off like someone dealing with a stress fracture or something.
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(02-18-2016 11:38 AM)chrislindy Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:30 AM)tarheels15 Wrote:  Grayson got two steals, Paige three blocks, McClellan steal, and Georges Hunt block

So that is 7... right?
Mitoglou got 1. It's on the scoresheet bruh
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(02-18-2016 11:37 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:32 AM)jhmoss1812 Wrote:  Well I'm getting beat down....I honestly don't see how I can win 1 category, let alone 3.
Solid season, and a nice run to finish in the top half. We would all be getting beat down by the Guardians this week

Better than I expected. I didn't think I'd make the playoffs. Based on my preseason projection, nobody else did either lol
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Thanks for updating stats again, J.
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(02-18-2016 11:40 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:38 AM)chrislindy Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:30 AM)tarheels15 Wrote:  Grayson got two steals, Paige three blocks, McClellan steal, and Georges Hunt block

So that is 7... right?
Mitoglou got 1. It's on the scoresheet bruh

Ah, OK. In that case, Imma be on the phone with the Syracuse SID about Gbinije's missing steals.
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(02-18-2016 11:25 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 10:05 AM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  ..you make up arguments just to argue.
The thing is, you make ridiculous comments to start the argument.

"no acc team will make the sweet 16 this year"
--- maybe this was a joke?

"Duke is terrible, just play defense and score some they lose...same with NC"
--- what a thought provoking insight on how to beat a couple top 20 teams

"[Duke and UNC] both can only outscore an opponent"
--- UNC is 35th nationally in defensive efficiency

"Duke UNC are a a 2 man team and a 1 man team"
--- Since when is having legit stars on your team considered a bad thing? UNC is deeeeep

"Duke and UNC played a combined 0 road games in the non conference.. Louisville 1?...Florida's SOS blows the ACC out of the water"
--- Florida SOS #9 ... Duke SOS #12 - is 3 spots a major difference? Louisville played @MSU and @UK

"If I took out Mich St, Purdue, Miami, and FSU...Florida would only have 5 losses and still have a SOS as good as many of the ACC teams maybe still tougher"
--- That leaves you with 5 losses against West Virginia and whatever mediocre/bad teams exist in the SEC outisde of UK and A&M. No chance that is tougher than any team in the ACC

I'm not trying to pick apart every post you make, but if you're wondering why people like to argue with you, it's because you're taking cheap shots at a conference superior to the SEC using exaggerated comments with no facts to back them up.

Arguing those points is fine...but making up arguments (I did bring up Florida once the SEC WA mentioned) is tiresome to get into. I love arguing/debating bball.

SOS as a whole is the acc is weak...Louisville-81, Syracuse-43, NC-59, Pitt-52, FSU-64, Clemson-104, NCST-40, VT-46. Some are decent and Dukes has risen a lot in the last week or so, but for a top tier conference there is a lot a blah schedules
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If you actually do that, and get two more steals, I'll just concede lmfao
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I just notice Eli Carter was 1-17 from the field last night

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(02-18-2016 11:41 AM)chrislindy Wrote:  Ah, OK. In that case, Imma be on the phone with the Syracuse SID about Gbinije's missing steals.
Please do. He had 3 that were plain as day, and a 4th that was questionable.
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(02-18-2016 11:45 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  I just notice Eli Carter was 1-17 from the field last night

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He let me back into our matchup. That and the fact you didn't play clifford last night.
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(02-18-2016 11:44 AM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Arguing those points is fine...but making up arguments (I did bring up Florida once the SEC WA mentioned) is tiresome to get into. I love arguing/debating bball.

SOS as a whole is the acc is weak...Louisville-81, Syracuse-43, NC-59, Pitt-52, FSU-64, Clemson-104, NCST-40, VT-46. Some are decent and Dukes has risen a lot in the last week or so, but for a top tier conference there is a lot a blah schedules
The ACC schedules as a whole will improve quite a bit over the last 3 weeks. 12 of 15 teams are in the KenPom top 75. If you don't play a tough OOC schedule in the SEC, then you're only going to have 2 or 3 shots at a resume win for the entire season.
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(02-18-2016 11:52 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:44 AM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Arguing those points is fine...but making up arguments (I did bring up Florida once the SEC WA mentioned) is tiresome to get into. I love arguing/debating bball.

SOS as a whole is the acc is weak...Louisville-81, Syracuse-43, NC-59, Pitt-52, FSU-64, Clemson-104, NCST-40, VT-46. Some are decent and Dukes has risen a lot in the last week or so, but for a top tier conference there is a lot a blah schedules
The ACC schedules as a whole will improve quite a bit over the last 3 weeks. 12 of 15 teams are in the KenPom top 75. If you don't play a tough OOC schedule in the SEC, then you're only going to have 2 or 3 shots at a resume win for the entire season.

Nice point, that's why SC is not even sniffing the top 25 and they have the same record as UNC
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(02-18-2016 11:58 AM)captainblackbeard13 Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:52 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:44 AM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Arguing those points is fine...but making up arguments (I did bring up Florida once the SEC WA mentioned) is tiresome to get into. I love arguing/debating bball.

SOS as a whole is the acc is weak...Louisville-81, Syracuse-43, NC-59, Pitt-52, FSU-64, Clemson-104, NCST-40, VT-46. Some are decent and Dukes has risen a lot in the last week or so, but for a top tier conference there is a lot a blah schedules
The ACC schedules as a whole will improve quite a bit over the last 3 weeks. 12 of 15 teams are in the KenPom top 75. If you don't play a tough OOC schedule in the SEC, then you're only going to have 2 or 3 shots at a resume win for the entire season.

Nice point, that's why SC is not even sniffing the top 25 and they have the same record as UNC

USCjr also had one of the worst non-conference schedules I've seen from a P5 team in a long time.
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(02-18-2016 11:52 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:44 AM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Arguing those points is fine...but making up arguments (I did bring up Florida once the SEC WA mentioned) is tiresome to get into. I love arguing/debating bball.

SOS as a whole is the acc is weak...Louisville-81, Syracuse-43, NC-59, Pitt-52, FSU-64, Clemson-104, NCST-40, VT-46. Some are decent and Dukes has risen a lot in the last week or so, but for a top tier conference there is a lot a blah schedules
The ACC schedules as a whole will improve quite a bit over the last 3 weeks. 12 of 15 teams are in the KenPom top 75. If you don't play a tough OOC schedule in the SEC, then you're only going to have 2 or 3 shots at a resume win for the entire season.

Looking at rpi, SEC has 9 teams in the top 84...5 in the top 34, this isn't past sec teams.. the league is a lot better as a whole. Projected 6 teams in the tourney and 1 in the first 4 out(the last time I checked, could have changed slightly)
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(02-18-2016 12:00 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:52 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:44 AM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Arguing those points is fine...but making up arguments (I did bring up Florida once the SEC WA mentioned) is tiresome to get into. I love arguing/debating bball.

SOS as a whole is the acc is weak...Louisville-81, Syracuse-43, NC-59, Pitt-52, FSU-64, Clemson-104, NCST-40, VT-46. Some are decent and Dukes has risen a lot in the last week or so, but for a top tier conference there is a lot a blah schedules
The ACC schedules as a whole will improve quite a bit over the last 3 weeks. 12 of 15 teams are in the KenPom top 75. If you don't play a tough OOC schedule in the SEC, then you're only going to have 2 or 3 shots at a resume win for the entire season.

Looking at rpi, SEC has 9 teams in the top 84...5 in the top 34, this isn't past sec teams.. the league is a lot better as a whole. Projected 6 teams in the tourney and 1 in the first 4 out(the last time I checked, could have changed slightly)
The SEC just lacks any marquee teams outside of UK (and UF when Donovan was there). Until someone besides UK can be in the conversation for Final Fours, it will always be a perception problem.
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Interesting look at the differences b/t SEC and ACC in comparing teams in the Top 50 of Offensive & Defensive Efficiency, adjusted for tempo (per KenPom):

SEC only has 2 teams in the 2016 Top 50 in AdjO, as of today. That's no fun. Does have 7 Top 50 AdjD though.

2016 SEC Top 50: 2 AdjO; 7 AdjD
2016 ACC Top 50: 10 AdjO; 5 AdjD

2015 SEC: 5 & 5
2015 ACC: 7 & 6

2014 SEC: 4 & 4
2014 ACC: 8 & 6

2013 SEC: 4 & 2
2013 ACC: 5 & 5

SEC had 14 teams all 4 seasons included. ACC had 12 teams in 2013, then 15 in 2014-16.
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(02-18-2016 12:04 PM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 12:00 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:52 AM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 11:44 AM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Arguing those points is fine...but making up arguments (I did bring up Florida once the SEC WA mentioned) is tiresome to get into. I love arguing/debating bball.

SOS as a whole is the acc is weak...Louisville-81, Syracuse-43, NC-59, Pitt-52, FSU-64, Clemson-104, NCST-40, VT-46. Some are decent and Dukes has risen a lot in the last week or so, but for a top tier conference there is a lot a blah schedules
The ACC schedules as a whole will improve quite a bit over the last 3 weeks. 12 of 15 teams are in the KenPom top 75. If you don't play a tough OOC schedule in the SEC, then you're only going to have 2 or 3 shots at a resume win for the entire season.

Looking at rpi, SEC has 9 teams in the top 84...5 in the top 34, this isn't past sec teams.. the league is a lot better as a whole. Projected 6 teams in the tourney and 1 in the first 4 out(the last time I checked, could have changed slightly)
The SEC just lacks any marquee teams outside of UK (and UF when Donovan was there). Until someone besides UK can be in the conversation for Final Fours, it will always be a perception problem.

Could be...but the ACC has one too imo. It's been Duke and then nothing when it comes to final 4s. Off the top of my head...last 15 yrs SEC is comparable to the ACC in Final 4s (I'm not counting the big East transfers).
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(02-18-2016 12:22 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Could be...but the ACC has one too imo. It's been Duke and then nothing when it comes to final 4s. Off the top of my head...last 15 yrs SEC is comparable to the ACC in Final 4s (I'm not counting the big East transfers).
This is what I'm talking about. Do some research if you don't want to get into another argument.
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(02-18-2016 12:37 PM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 12:22 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Could be...but the ACC has one too imo. It's been Duke and then nothing when it comes to final 4s. Off the top of my head...last 15 yrs SEC is comparable to the ACC in Final 4s (I'm not counting the big East transfers).
This is what I'm talking about. Do some research if you don't want to get into another argument.

Since 2000...11 ACC Final 4s....9 SEC Final 4s. Haha.

Edit: That's from 4 ACC schools and 3 SEC schools
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Why would we not count Big East transfers? That's cherry picking data to the nth degree. Should the Big East as it exists today get a massive boost because Louisville, UConn, and Cuse were in the league (by name) 5 years ago?
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(02-18-2016 01:39 PM)chrislindy Wrote:  Why would we not count Big East transfers? That's cherry picking data to the nth degree. Should the Big East as it exists today get a massive boost because Louisville, UConn, and Cuse were in the league (by name) 5 years ago?

If they were not in the ACC I don't consider it an ACC Final 4. It's not cherry picking it's fact. It's completely false to include the acc transfers because I'm comparing the two conferences over the years not specific teams.
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So who gets credit for Louisville's back-to-back Final Fours, UConn's two titles in the last decade, and the Final Four appearances by Syracuse & West Virginia? Are you arguing that we have to wipe all of that out just because the conferences were part of the realignments? That's patently stupid IMO. It says you don't like the reality that the 15 CURRENT ACC teams have appeared in a combined 13 Final Fours since 2000, so you place a caveat to twist the argument in a perverted fashion to suit an argument being made ABOUT THE CURRENT ACC MEMBERS.
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GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE! We get to thump our chests about Maryland's 2002 national championship!
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(02-18-2016 02:49 PM)chrislindy Wrote:  So who gets credit for Louisville's back-to-back Final Fours, UConn's two titles in the last decade, and the Final Four appearances by Syracuse & West Virginia? Are you arguing that we have to wipe all of that out just because the conferences were part of the realignments? That's patently stupid IMO. It says you don't like the reality that the 15 CURRENT ACC teams have appeared in a combined 13 Final Fours since 2000, so you place a caveat to twist the argument in a perverted fashion to suit an argument being made ABOUT THE CURRENT ACC MEMBERS.

Please read better...according to the NCAA those titles go to the OLD BIG East. Quit talking shit about chest pumping. All I'm doing is comparing the final 4s of the ACC and SEC. I hope u dont claim your titles as ACC titles cause u didnt play in the ACC when u won them. Did you all win the ACC tourney a few years ago when you all won the title...didn't think so cause you didn't play in the ACC then.

ACC is overrated and always has been IMO.
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(02-18-2016 03:04 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 02:49 PM)chrislindy Wrote:  So who gets credit for Louisville's back-to-back Final Fours, UConn's two titles in the last decade, and the Final Four appearances by Syracuse & West Virginia? Are you arguing that we have to wipe all of that out just because the conferences were part of the realignments? That's patently stupid IMO. It says you don't like the reality that the 15 CURRENT ACC teams have appeared in a combined 13 Final Fours since 2000, so you place a caveat to twist the argument in a perverted fashion to suit an argument being made ABOUT THE CURRENT ACC MEMBERS.

Please read better...according to the NCAA those titles go to the OLD BIG East. Quit talking shit about chest pumping. All I'm doing is comparing the final 4s of the ACC and SEC. I hope u dont claim your titles as ACC titles cause u didnt play in the ACC when u won them. Did you all win the ACC tourney a few years ago when you all won the title...didn't think so cause you didn't play in the ACC then.

ACC is overrated and always has been IMO.

Just like the SEC in football!
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(02-18-2016 03:12 PM)captainblackbeard13 Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 03:04 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 02:49 PM)chrislindy Wrote:  So who gets credit for Louisville's back-to-back Final Fours, UConn's two titles in the last decade, and the Final Four appearances by Syracuse & West Virginia? Are you arguing that we have to wipe all of that out just because the conferences were part of the realignments? That's patently stupid IMO. It says you don't like the reality that the 15 CURRENT ACC teams have appeared in a combined 13 Final Fours since 2000, so you place a caveat to twist the argument in a perverted fashion to suit an argument being made ABOUT THE CURRENT ACC MEMBERS.

Please read better...according to the NCAA those titles go to the OLD BIG East. Quit talking shit about chest pumping. All I'm doing is comparing the final 4s of the ACC and SEC. I hope u dont claim your titles as ACC titles cause u didnt play in the ACC when u won them. Did you all win the ACC tourney a few years ago when you all won the title...didn't think so cause you didn't play in the ACC then.

ACC is overrated and always has been IMO.

Just like the SEC in football!

Is it imaginary like all those titles this century...or is it imaginary like the police department in Tallahassee
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Why the fuck is Frozen Glacier arguing that the current ACC is overrated as a conference yet he doesn't include accomplishments from current members? Some serious bullshit cherry picking here
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I'm done with this argument if you all keep making shit up. The ACC this year is overrated. J mentioned final 4s and I compared the ACC vs SEC over the last 15 yrs. Louisville didn't play in the ACC when they went. It's not cherry picking anything...sounds like the acc has an image problem if they are claiming ACC titles for other conferences...wow
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(02-18-2016 03:04 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Please read better...according to the NCAA those titles go to the OLD BIG East. Quit talking shit about chest pumping. All I'm doing is comparing the final 4s of the ACC and SEC. I hope u dont claim your titles as ACC titles cause u didnt play in the ACC when u won them. Did you all win the ACC tourney a few years ago when you all won the title...didn't think so cause you didn't play in the ACC then.

ACC is overrated and always has been IMO.
No, you said the ACC has a perception problem. Perception is not about the history of the ACC, it’s about the teams IN the ACC. The teams IN the ACC have 4 of the 5 active Hall of Fame coaches in college basketball. The teams IN the ACC have 7 titles from 4 different teams since 2001. You say the ACC is a one team league? Let’s take away the best team from the ACC and SEC since the year 2000 and see what’s left…
ACC:
Duke
UNC – 2 Titles, 4 Final Fours
UofL – 1 Title, 3 Final Fours
Syracuse – 1 Title, 2 Final Fours
Georgia Tech – 1 Final Four
Total – 5 Titles, 10 Final Fours, 4 teams, 3 active coaches

SEC:
Kentucky
Florida – 2 Titles, 4 Final Fours
LSU – 1 Final Four
Total – 2 Titles, 5 Final Fours, 2 teams, 0 active coaches

There is zero data to support the ACC being a one team show. And here’s the thing about perception, Billy Donovan ain’t walking through that door. The coach that earned the only 2 titles and 4 of 5 Final Fours outside of UK, is gone. That leaves you with UK and …………… what? Every team (sans GT) in the ACC still has their coach that has won all those Titles and Final Fours. There is ZERO comparison in reality or perception between these 2 conferences.
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(02-18-2016 03:25 PM)J-Rye_UL Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 03:04 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  Please read better...according to the NCAA those titles go to the OLD BIG East. Quit talking shit about chest pumping. All I'm doing is comparing the final 4s of the ACC and SEC. I hope u dont claim your titles as ACC titles cause u didnt play in the ACC when u won them. Did you all win the ACC tourney a few years ago when you all won the title...didn't think so cause you didn't play in the ACC then.

ACC is overrated and always has been IMO.
No, you said the ACC has a perception problem. Perception is not about the history of the ACC, it’s about the teams IN the ACC. The teams IN the ACC have 4 of the 5 active Hall of Fame coaches in college basketball. The teams IN the ACC have 7 titles from 4 different teams since 2001. You say the ACC is a one team league? Let’s take away the best team from the ACC and SEC since the year 2000 and see what’s left…
ACC:
Duke
UNC – 2 Titles, 4 Final Fours
UofL – 1 Title, 3 Final Fours
Syracuse – 1 Title, 2 Final Fours
Georgia Tech – 1 Final Four
Total – 5 Titles, 10 Final Fours, 4 teams, 3 active coaches

SEC:
Kentucky
Florida – 2 Titles, 4 Final Fours
LSU – 1 Final Four
Total – 2 Titles, 5 Final Fours, 2 teams, 0 active coaches

There is zero data to support the ACC being a one team show. And here’s the thing about perception, Billy Donovan ain’t walking through that door. The coach that earned the only 2 titles and 4 of 5 Final Fours outside of UK, is gone. That leaves you with UK and …………… what? Every team (sans GT) in the ACC still has their coach that has won all those Titles and Final Fours. There is ZERO comparison in reality or perception between these 2 conferences.

Perception is recent not old. Done with this argument since you keep cherry picking stats
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This is where I remind myself that Glacier is 17. And I HATED that dig when I was his age. Now I wonder if I was as myopic and unintentionally trolling at that age.
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This whole argument is bordering on surreal.

Memo to EVERYONE: When you're talking about the ACC make sure you clarify which version you are talking about. Duke, UNC and NC State are the only teams in the ACC who have won titles..
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Lol so much that I've missed so off the top of my head..

-Duke and UNC would BITCH slap Florida on a neutral floor. (Along with about 3-4 other teams not including the two that already have) You'd get one of those patented double digit losses against top 25 teams.
-Sec IS a one man show. UK and who?? BD is gone. Florida is irrelevant.
-Comparing the SEC to the ACC or the old big east is laughable and a warning sign of delusion.
-Louisville and Syracuse's accomplishments are included in the ACC accomplishments. Not because it's logical and I say so...but because basketball says so. Darrell Griffith of UofL was recently inducted into a ACC HOF type thing. He never smelled the ACC. Or Big East. Or CUSA...
-You have to be 19. Tops.
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Nanu got 4 assists? Fml
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(02-18-2016 04:08 PM)DieHardCards Wrote:  Darrell Griffith of UofL was recently inducted into a ACC HOF type thing. He never smelled the ACC. Or Big East. Or CUSA...

The weird thing is I would actually listen to an argument like this. It seems a little weird to adopt a player who never PLAYED in your conference as a HOF'er. But to say that the entire school's accomplishments get lost to history and a million conference realignments is just silly. Especially, again, when you are declaring the current cast of schools as collectively overrated. Duke is not overrated. UNC is not overrated. Cuse is not. Louisville is not. Outside of Kentucky, there isn't a school in the SEC that has the pedigree (past, present, or future) of those 4 programs.
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(02-18-2016 04:19 PM)chrislindy Wrote:  
(02-18-2016 04:08 PM)DieHardCards Wrote:  Darrell Griffith of UofL was recently inducted into a ACC HOF type thing. He never smelled the ACC. Or Big East. Or CUSA...

The weird thing is I would actually listen to an argument like this. It seems a little weird to adopt a player who never PLAYED in your conference as a HOF'er. But to say that the entire school's accomplishments get lost to history and a million conference realignments is just silly. Especially, again, when you are declaring the current cast of schools as collectively overrated. Duke is not overrated. UNC is not overrated. Cuse is not. Louisville is not. Outside of Kentucky, there isn't a school in the SEC that has the pedigree (past, present, or future) of those 4 programs.
I have a great reply to this, but it might upset some, so I will refrain from making it...but it was a good one
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(02-18-2016 04:08 PM)DieHardCards Wrote:  -You have to be 19. Tops.

(02-18-2016 04:24 PM)FrozenGlacier Wrote:  I have a great reply to this, but it might upset some, so I will refrain from making it...but it was a good one

I'm thinking 19 was way too generous.
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This is all way to funny.
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(02-18-2016 03:37 PM)Red Alert Wrote:  This whole argument is bordering on surreal.

Memo to EVERYONE: When you're talking about the ACC make sure you clarify which version you are talking about. Duke, UNC and NC State are the only teams in the ACC who have won titles..
So they don't get credit for UofL or Cuse who are in the conference, and they don't get credit for Maryland who was in the conference when they won a title. That's some harsh criteria to gage the current state of a conference
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