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Coastal Pre-Season Ballot Leak Thread
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Coastal Pre-Season Ballot Leak Thread
Gary Parrish is on fire today, obtaining a leaked ballot from the coach of the Empire detailing his Coastal pre-season rankings and arguments for and against each team. The following is printed in its entirety with no modifications or recissions.

1. Empire - Because of course
Strengths: rebounding, defense, assists
Potential weaknesses: scoring, FT shooting
Recap: Gbinije, Young, Roberson and Meeks provided a solid base that will pile up boards and wreak havoc on opposing ball handlers and would-be rim testers. Without viable alternatives, Gbinije and Roberson should also find themselves two of the highest MPG players in the league. If Perrantes, Thornton, and/or Holmes can provide a steady does of assists, this team could be a lock for the W in nearly every match-up.

2. DieHardCards - solid at point guard, power forward, and center... can Vasturia fill the void left by Grant/Connaughton and how much will Montay Brandon be imapcted by the arrival of Dwayne Bacon?
Strengths: well-rounded
Potential weaknesses: Can they lead the league in any single category?

3. Buzz - Despite the potential disaster of taking Justin Jackson 5th overall and reaching on Chase Jeter, Cat Barber and Landry Nnoko should be enough to remain competitive with the league's upper echelon.
Strengths: scoring, defense
Potential weaknesses: Will Rodriguez rebound from his late 2014 funk? Will Jackson step up in a loaded UNC rotation? Is Chase Jeter even in sniffing distance of Jahlil Okafor's jock?

4. Kitty Cats - Division's strongest back court should make up for potential question marks in the middle.
Strengths: scoring, FT shooting
Potential weaknesses: rebounding, growth of Mitiglou & Colson without strong fall-back options

5. Guardians of the Cassel - Devon Bookert at SG undermines arguably the strongest 1 through 5 in the division.
Strengths: scoring, rebounding
Potential weaknesses: if Bookert loses his job to Bacon, who do the Guardians turn to for their 2G spot?

6. Hebrew Hammer - Major questions at the PF and C spots diminish a G/G/F rotation as strong as the Kitty Cats.
Strengths: Scoring, FT shooting
Potential weaknesses: can they rebound enough and who plays D on this soft roster?

7. Hothot - Terry Henderson could be 6th Man of the Year and Brogdon and Lee are as good as any back court in the country. But can Georgia Tech's front court and Louisville's back court be enough week in and week out?
Strengths: rebounding, FT shooting
Potential weaknesses: Over-reliance on two teams, one of which is facing heavy turmoil at the season's start.

8. Bitches - XRM could be player of the year and Eli Carter is a solid 6th-round selection, but missteps in Rounds 3-5 may doom the season.
Strengths: scoring, defense
Potential weaknesses: will anyone other than XRM get assists? Does James White even start for GT in 2015? Will poor (and frequent) FT trips from XRM torpedo the tricky 5th statistical category?
10-08-2015 07:07 PM
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Good stuff Chris. Thank you.
10-08-2015 08:24 PM
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RE: Coastal Pre-Season Ballot Leak Thread
Had mine as
1.Lindy's Empire
2.Kitty Cats
3.Guardians
4.DHC
5.Needabuzz(sorry buddy had you 16th in the preseason poll upon further review should have been 11 or so)
6.HotHot
7.Hebrew Hammer
8.Bitches
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I sincerely like all of the teams in our division. I think all of you have done a great job of putting a team together. Some better than others as always but it is what it is.

My order:
1. Empire
2. Dominators
3. Kitty Cats
4. Guardians
5. Hammers
6. Bitches
7.Needabuzz
8. HotHot

I plan on writing more on this and I'd like to hear what everyone else has to say as well.
10-08-2015 08:37 PM
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I think 1-4 can be flipped around between Me, Mike, DHC, and Lindy tbh. It's so tough to say right now with so many question marks. No offense to anyone else's team, just see those teams having the most potential for players to make significant leaps.
10-08-2015 08:41 PM
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Yeah, I think the same about 1-5. I was surprised because I did the other division rankings first and saw a much clearer top class of teams. Nick truly did screw that league and create a pandemonium by pulling Jekiri and Young. Caused some opponents to panic draft lesser centers too early and leave Nick and a couple of patient guys to gobble up the guards and forwards.
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In the Atlantic, I saw a lot more wtf type picks in my mind than here. Obi was just terrible haha no way around saying it.
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I think my team will also be very strong on FT%. Jeter was a big risk but in High School he averaged a double double and he alsbo averaged like 5 blocks a game. I keep hearing he is skinny and that college guys will beat him up. Didn't he play on a team that had another burger boy that was 7 foot and weighed 240lbs? Seems to me that he may be used to working against bigger guys a bit more than what is being said here.

Also I saw people say sorry for where you ranked my team. Why would I care? Vote what you want to vote or think is right. I don't cry because you don't agree with my assesment.
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I don't know if Jeter even starts for Duke tbh nor do I think he even plays that big of a role in that team. I see them being very guard oriented.
10-09-2015 10:59 AM
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We will see. If you are right it will be a terrible pick.
10-09-2015 01:53 PM
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My order:
1. Empire
2. Dominators
3. Kitty Cats
4. Guardians
5. Hammers
6. Bitches
7.Needabuzz
8. HotHot

-Empire may have the best front court in the division in Meeks and Young. They will be complimented by Gbinije, a stat stuffer that can play the first 3 positions with ease. Meeks may have the most trouble with minutes out of the 3 because UNC is so talented and his condition has never been the greatest but I'm hearing he's in his best shape. Thornton, Turner and Maia (Injured transfer) leave some question marks especially with depth. Roberson and Perrantes should be solid role players. Overall, I like this team and you better pack your lunch. Gbinije is the wild card. He may drop 20/8/5/5 on you at any given time.

-Dominators are a solid veteran team. CMM, Artis and Jekiri are as solid of a base as any team in the league. I look for Vasturia to get increased minutes and help Jackson plug the gaping hole that was Jerian Grant. There have been some questions as to how Artis will adapt with a position change but his coach was waiting for the depth to move him to this more natural position for him so he very well may flourish. I'm not convinced that Dwayne Bacon will have anything to do with Brandon's PT. Their games aren't the same from what I've seen and it's tough to keep a senior leader off of the floor, especially one that is versatile. If Mathiang plays anywhere near as good as he did for Australia or in PR, he's a hell of a steal in the 8th round. I look for him to be in the starting lineup at some point.

-Kitty cats have probably the best backcourt in the division with Paige and McClellan. Paige was a bit of a disappointment last year so hopefully he's all healed and ready to go. Colson has a lot of growing up to do but he's poised to take on his starting role by all accounts. MGH is an excellent compliment to the backcourt of the cats and he'll be a solid contributor. Not a fan on Mitoglou but that's just me. Allen (as long as he gets the minutes) should be a nice contributor from the utility spot. The best part of this team is the bench. They have one of the better benches in the league. Very balanced in needs and some seriously quality players. Coleman, reed and beachem could replace mitoglou, colson and allen without missing a beat. As a matter of fact I wouldn't be surprised to see two of the bench players starting before the season is up.

-I really like the guardians aside from their number 1 pick. He could be a one and done superstar that makes me eat my words or he could be a guy that puts up third/fourth round production. K is an excellent evaluator of talent so I'd lean towards the first part but I'm just not a fan of a gamble with the first pick. Johnson and Thomas will certainly rival the Empire as far as frontcourts go. Thomas was my number 1 center and I was surprised he dropped as far as he did. The backcourt is comprised of solid role players and Abu will be good for the utility spot. The bench is a bit suspect but Hill is talented and Snider is a guy that could certainly sneak into a starting spot if things pan out with him this season and he gets plenty of PT.

-Jackson and Blossomgame are a hell of a one-two punch for the Hammers, Seth Allen at the third pick could be very solid but it's always a chance with a transfer. I think he would have made it another round. Tobey and Jefferson should make up a pretty decent front court as well. My thoughts, as well as everything I've read, indicates that Jefferson will play more minutes than most people probably think. Not sold that Bacon is going to be getting starter minutes at FSU but we'll see how that situation shakes out. Hammers drafted a pretty good bench including defensive specialist Anya and solid should-be contributors in Shayok and Jorgensen. I like this team. I think they have a lot of potential. Very balanced.

-Between XRM, Cooney, and Carter the Bitches will have a solid backcourt. Carter may end up being the starter with Cooney coming in at utility depending on how Carter adjusts and the strides that Cooney has made over the summer. Grantham and White should be a good, not overwhelming, but good middle. Auguste will be a solid anchor in the post for the Bitches. While this pick may have lasted another round, it's very solid and it's likely that ND will lean on him quite a bit. Kaleb Joseph could be a really good 7th round pick. Sterling Smith could be a steal of an impact transfer. Hudson and Uceda could be decent front court players in a pinch but probably wont make a ton of waves.

-There are a lot of questions for the Buzz. Barber and Jackson should both be very good for them regardless of where they were taken. Nnoko isn't extraordinary however he should definitely be serviceable for his team. Angel Rodriguez was a cancer for his team the second half of last season. His minutes got cut quite a bit which was only partially attributed to his injury (to what I believe is his shooting hand) and he did not play in any of the postseason games. Who knows if we will see early 2014 Angel that was an all-conference guy or the guy that ended the season. That could swing the buzz quite a bit. Jeter will be fighting for PT, whether he wins or loses that battle swings the team even more. Smith will be a solid utility guy for the team. They also have a really nice bench. Adel and Johnson have both been promising thus far in practice and could be big contributors. One could possibly sneak into his lineup. Matt Jones and Lennard Freeman in the last two picks are good gets. Both are guys that could see utility minutes as well. This team has a high ceiling but there are too many unanswered questions at this time.

-Hothot could be very good as well behind excellent guard play, if that's what he gets. I don't necessarily like stacking the Louisville backcourt because you can almost rule out both guys having exceptional nights for you. It's a good way to hedge your bet but it may hurt you. Also, I had Brogdon rated quite a bit lower but he will still be a very good guard for hothot. As his coach last year, he was almost one dimensional quite a bit because of the system he's in I suspect. He's not really going to fill up your statsheet but you will get scoring and very good FT shooting. I wasn't sold on the Henderson pick especially since he was drafting a bench player and not even a utility leaving a forward spot open which has to be filled by Jacobs. Probably a pretty decent get in the 7th round but still a 7th rounder. Blackshear and Richardson aren't necessarily on my watch list radar however if there's a silver lining, I think it's that Onuaku will end up in the starting lineup. Good late pick up there.

I'll say it again, I like ALL of your teams and I think our division did a hell of job drafting their teams and I believe we'll dominate the Atlantic just like we did last year. Wink
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